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I rebooted not twenty minutes ago, which means a new folder "Cache" on my RamDisk drive. Nonetheless, I logged out, closed Firefox, deleted the teeny-weeny cache, and reloaded Firefox. Signed in - and here I am again.
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Five minutes before this I had tried to start a new thread in this forum.
For the past week or more I have been experiencing long (60+ seconds) in response to Preview or to Submit.
About once a day I get some sort of SQL error.

Question1: Has anyone else been experiencing anything like this?
Question2: Are six instances of FF a Good Thing so shortly after a reboot.

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1) No, not I.
2) Try ending the extraneous copies of Fx running as evidenced by Task Manager.

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Re 2) - see Topic: Why so many Firefox processes? @ AskWoody for some likely reasons.
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BobH wrote:
05 Nov 2020, 18:06
2) Try ending the extraneous copies of Fx running as evidenced by Task Manager.
Hi Bob, and I re-read your thread of three days ago.
I will dive deeper into the multiple copies next time this arises.
For the past fortnight I have been putting the delay down to a slow or fully-occupied server. Who am I to complain, right?
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You don't suppose the snow or cold has anything to do with slow response from Eileen's Lounge?
I had wondered whether the new Throttling Governor code module in the software had finally recognized that I was logged in ....
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ChrisGreaves wrote:
05 Nov 2020, 18:03
It happened again, just now.
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The Lounge has been slow for me this week. At one point it refused to respond to me clicking the submit button, as in it seemed to think about it but didn't actually do anything. Looging out, clearing cookies, all the usual suspects had no effect. A few hours later, no problems. The Admins may have better insight but I fear it's just the nature of the server that hosts The Lounge.

As for all those FF processes, that's just the way FF works these days and has worked for some considerable time now, ever since Firefox Quantum became a thing. Leave them alone or you'll break FF.

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Leif wrote:
05 Nov 2020, 18:17
Re 2) - see Topic: Why so many Firefox processes? @ AskWoody for some likely reasons.
Thank you Leif.
I read through that thread and formed the opinion that 6 processes is not necessarily the cause of the long delay in response to a Preview or Submit command (too EL via FF)

So to Question 3: Has anyone else experienced these Eileen's Lounge 60+seconds delay after Preview/Submit within, say, the past three days?

I should add that I was at home on my own router this morning, but since 2pm (an hour ago) I have been at Tom's using his router/provider.

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stuck wrote:
05 Nov 2020, 18:32
The Lounge has been slow for me this week. At one point it refused to respond to me clicking the submit button, as in it seemed to think about it but didn't actually do anything. Logging out, clearing cookies, all the usual suspects had no effect. A few hours later, no problems. The Admins may have better insight but I fear it's just the nature of the server that hosts The Lounge.
Thank you Ken. So it is not Just Me.
That is a relief.
I can accept a hiccough on the server as the reason.
As for all those FF processes, that's just the way FF works these days and has worked for some considerable time now, ever since Firefox Quantum became a thing. Leave them alone or you'll break FF.
Thanks for this, too.
Of course I don't spend much time in Task Manager when I am browsing, but it is where I head to when I want to axe a (to me) misbehaving Ap.

FWIW When I have inspected the 6 processes, two of them have been at 0% CPU, but perhaps one of those is a D/L processor and perhaps the other one is a ??? processor.

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As Ken said; been like that for a long time (in Fx).

I think it's also related to this (which I see no need to change):
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/pe ... e-settings

The Lounge?
"Things" happen every now and then; I wouldn't blame my browser or computer for that; you will also usually notice if most other sites are working at the time.

Delays, yes of course I've experienced that (even if I called the Lounge snappy after the move), and I think we have touched the topic a couple of times. Just earlier today: no response when pressing preview; made sure I had a copy of the post; backed & refreshed.

Since there isn't much that can be done I see no use in troubleshooting.
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As has been remarked, Firefox create lot of processes.

Since the move to a new server and to phpBB version 3.3, the Lounge is often slow for me. It is particularly pronounced at the whole hour, when digests are being sent, but it occurs at random other times too. Most of the time it's just a matter of waiting, but sometimes I get an error message that the connection to the database has been lost, or even that eileenslounge.com cannot be found. Reloading the page after a minute or so usually works. Unfortunately, we cannot solve this :sad:
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Being logged out on the other hand ... Read the thread (not logged in); backed to the portal; wrote what is needed (username etc.) but didn't log in, instead I checked another thread and backed to the portal; no surprise that the password box was empty, so I entered what is needed again and logged in. Now the fun started. After the post above I clicked Portal top left and was logged out (not the first time for any of us). I then (just for fun) stepped backwards (via mouse key/keyboard key/browser button etc. and found the thread again with my text the post "composing box"(?), but I wasn't logged in.
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It's a sorry state of things...
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HansV wrote:
05 Nov 2020, 20:34
It's a sorry state of things...
:ranton: I blame it all on that ChrisGreaves guy. :burnup: :bwaah: I only ever experience delays when HE is logged in. :rantoff:
I mean! ...
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I don't seem to be affected by the multiple processes for Firefox but it does seem to be a memory hog. I am running 8 Fx tabs as I took the screen shot of Task Manager.
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What's this (then)?
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The modern browsers Firefox and Chromium based launch separate processes for each tab plus each add-in plus its own main process. These are used to isolate each of those so if one crashes it does not necessarily crash the whole browser. Lots of RAM usage appears to be "just the way it is" now with these apps.
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ChrisGreaves wrote:
05 Nov 2020, 18:03
For the past week or more I have been experiencing long (60+ seconds) in response to Preview or to Submit.
Then there's Murphy; if you spot an error just as you click Submit, then you can be sure it will be posted in a nanosecond, with no delay at all.
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I stand (or sit, as the case may be) corrected:
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Argus wrote:
06 Nov 2020, 18:12
Then there's Murphy; if you spot an error just as you click Submit, then you can be sure it will be posted in a nanosecond, with no delay at all.
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