Trying to get my head around Office Licencing

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I'm posting back because I'm genuinely not understanding how this is all supposed to work. I'm also hoping the process might help some other lost soul down the track.

I've signed in on the web, and clicked the Install Office button. It's downloaded (without any options available), some sort of office.exe file. I've run that, and it's installed office with, again, no options whatsoever, not even any "are you sure" type questions. I now have about 500 office apps in my start menu.

I've opened the Word one (I know it's the new one because it says "New"), and it wants me to sign in to activate it. So I put in my email and password and then the authenticator code...

This screen then shows up:
stay signed in.png

From this I'm assuming there are actually two different things it wants to know. I don't want my organisation managing ANYTHING on my own personal device, so I untick the box (as seen in the screenshot). The other thing is whether I want to sign in only to this app or to all microsoft apps. I only want to use word, excel, powerpoint and outlook on my home pc, so I'll click All apps and assume I can just delete or remove or disable the ones I don't want later...

I click this and it tells me it's registering my device
register device1.png

Then when that's done I see this
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Now I have to post this post and start another one because I can't attach more than 3 attachments (???!)
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Next it tells me I need to restart Office to apply my privacy settings. OK.
restart.png

Then I have to accept the licence agreement.
Accept the license agreement.png

Finally, it seems to be saying everything is ok.
Privacy Settings Applied.png

I can type on a blank word doc and save it on my PC. However, when I click to Save, the default location is OneDrive. Remember that so far, I have been given no options whatsoever about what I want or don’t want…Stuart’s previous advice (You need to be careful when you log in to specify that the Microsoft account is to be used for Microsoft Apps only. The process does try to get you to allow that account to be used for other things and you may need to clear check-boxes on some forms before you click OK. Read every form carefully before you click any buttons.) is sound, but I don’t know when this stuff is supposed to appear.

As should be obvious, this is close to the least intuitive thing I’ve ever encountered. Next post…
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I’ve gone to the Save options in Word and clicked things as follows:
Word Save options.png

Now, to get rid of OneDrive, I went to the start menu, right clicked on its Icon and Uninstall. It took me to the standard Programs page, where I uninstalled it, I think, successfully. I think this is all good, because now, when I click Save, I see this
save without onedrive.png

So, after all this, here are my questions, and apologies in advance, because to some of you these things will be beyond obvious, but to me, they are the opposite.

1) Do I seem to have done things correctly, so that things are only saved on my local computer?

2) How can I be sure that OneDrive doesn’t exist on this PC?

3) Do I have to repeat what I’ve done for Excel, Powerpoint and Outlook?

4) How do I remove all other unwanted apps?

5) Where do I find this: “You need to be careful when you log in to specify that the Microsoft account is to be used for Microsoft Apps only. The process does try to get you to allow that acccount to be used for other things and you may need to clear check-boxes on some forms before you click OK. Read every form carefully before you click any buttons.”

6) Do I have to remain “signed in” while using this? Or can I somehow use and save things only on my local computer, without being signed in to Microsoft? I can't stand seeing my ugly mug (that's "face" for anyone not familiar...) and email address at the top right of the screen all the time.

I swear, the more technology advances, the more utopia recedes into the distance...
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And just to be super clear (again, I'd do all this in one post instead of 4 if there wasn't the attachment limit), this is what I don't want to when I start Word etc:
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Re: Trying to get my head around Office Licencing

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1) Yes.
2) I'd leave OneDrive and either not use it at all, or simply use it to make files available via Internet if you ever need to.
3) Yes.
4) You cannot choose which Microsoft 365 apps to install. I don't know why you have "500 office apps in my start menu".
5) Stuart?
6) Yes, you have to remained signed in. Since Microsoft 365 is a subscription service, it only works when you are signed in to your account. Once you are signed in. you shouldn't have to do that each time you start an Office application.
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5) Always choose "Sign in to this app only"
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Thankyou both for your continued help for me.
HansV wrote:
12 Jun 2024, 10:00
2) I'd leave OneDrive and either not use it at all, or simply use it to make files available via Internet if you ever need to.
I think I don't have any other option actually. I got into work today and nothing worked. Apparently uninstalling onedrive from my local home PC uninstalls it from everywhere.
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12 Jun 2024, 10:00
4) You cannot choose which Microsoft 365 apps to install. I don't know why you have "500 office apps in my start menu".
Apologies. That was my (bad?) humour. 500 was an exaggeration.
StuartR wrote:
12 Jun 2024, 11:25
5) Always choose "Sign in to this app only"
Hmmm. So, since I've accidentally clicked "All Apps and websites", how do I now change things so that I am only ever signed in to Word, Excel, Outlook, PPT?
HansV wrote:
12 Jun 2024, 10:00
6) Yes, you have to remained signed in. Since Microsoft 365 is a subscription service, it only works when you are signed in to your account. Once you are signed in. you shouldn't have to do that each time you start an Office application.
If I'm understanding correctly, you're saying that as long as I sign in only to each individual app I want, it's not an issue being "signed in" all the time. I'm only "signed in" as far as using those apps goes? Again, sorry if this seems obvious.

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OneSecondStreet wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 06:56
StuartR wrote:
12 Jun 2024, 11:25
5) Always choose "Sign in to this app only"
Hmmm. So, since I've accidentally clicked "All Apps and websites", how do I now change things so that I am only ever signed in to Word, Excel, Outlook, PPT?
You should be able to sign out of your Microsoft account from the "Office Account" menu in any office app and then sign back in again.
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StuartR wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 09:17
OneSecondStreet wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 06:56
StuartR wrote:
12 Jun 2024, 11:25
5) Always choose "Sign in to this app only"
Hmmm. So, since I've accidentally clicked "All Apps and websites", how do I now change things so that I am only ever signed in to Word, Excel, Outlook, PPT?
You should be able to sign out of your Microsoft account from the "Office Account" menu in any office app and then sign back in again.
Thanks Stuart. But this doesn't work. I've done it twice now. I've signed out of everhthing, Word on my local PC (from the office account menu) and microsoft on the web. I open Word, it tells me to sign in. I give it my email (to "Activate Office"), then my password, then the authenticator code... Once it's signed in it tells me to restart office to apply changes to my privacy settings (I don't understand this).I click OK and can start using it. At no time is there anything which allows me to only be signed in to Word,Excel, PPT or outlook.

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But you should only be signed in to Office not to windows
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StuartR wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 10:55
But you should only be signed in to Office not to windows
I'm not signed in to Windows. Or at least I don't know how I would be if I was...

Perhaps could or explain, or show, exactly where I'm supposed to go in order to sign out of windows but sign in to office. I think that's what you're saying.

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When you log in to Windows do you use an email address or just a name?
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StuartR wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 11:10
When you log in to Windows do you use an email address or just a name?
Until now, I don't log in to Windows, or... I only do so on my work computer. I'm logged into there pretty much all the time. On my home PC, never. When I've been faced with sign-in boxes through this process, I've used my (work) email address.