Can't stay logged in (split off from Add-on to exclude ...)

[ChrisGreaves]

No one's mentioned any errors as yet? Andy.

Oh, very well then.
If you insist.
This isn't an error; it's a heads-up.
I think if someone else reports it it might be an error.
Twice today I've had to log in to the lounge; hasn't happened since I rebuilt this system 3 weeks ago; generally never happens; and I know I heard you say something about cookies.
I've spent a large part of this day physically rebuilding my office, re-cabling etc, which shouldn't affect cookies, So I'm not pointing any fingers.
Yet.

Anyone else out there playing with 'andy and having to log back in to Eileen's Lounge?

(later) I think I'll go and inspect the code to see if there is anything like

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If %username%=="ChrisGreaves" then ... 

[ChrisGreaves]

26 pages of complaints?????

Well in the end I didn't click "Submit", but I came this close!.

[Hey Jude]

Anyone else out there playing with 'andy and having to log back in to Eileen's Lounge?

(later) I think I'll go and inspect the code to see if there is anything like

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If %username%=="ChrisGreaves" then ... 

The past few days every time I close EL and re-open FF I have to re-log in and re-check the log me in automatically but I don't know what it's related to. I've enabled cookies, and I disabled Abine at this site, but I used to have no issues logging in automatically...now I do...but it may be something I've done--most likely, though I'd like to pin it down.

[HansV]

I don't have to login to Eileen's Lounge either in Internet Explorer 8 (where I don't use Andy's Search at the moment) or in Firefox 3.6.13 (where I do).

[Hey Jude]

I've just checked my cookie settings and have them set "until they expire" as opposed to "when FF closes" but I still had to log in and check that automatically log me in box again. Any ideas?

[HansV]

Do you use any cookie management software? Cleaner utilities such as CCleaner? New add-ins in Firefox?

[Hey Jude]

Do you use any cookie management software? Cleaner utilities such as CCleaner? New add-ins in Firefox?

CCleaner but I haven't changed those settings. I did just check Abine FF add-on but it is disabled on this site, I also just went in to FF/Tools/Options and checked the settings of "Clear History when I close FF" and in that Cookies and Active Logins were checked, so I unchecked them. I had just fiddled with those settings on Monday so will see if this makes any difference. Thanks.

[Hey Jude]

I closed FF and was able to log in to my Portal ok so I had changed what was removed when FF closed. It has nothing to do with Andy's search and I will put it back on now :-)

[agibsonsw]

Mmmm I'm intrigued. I've not been able to replicate the problem so far.

It should not be possible for my page to affect any other web sites' settings. If there were an error in the code it should/will only cause my page to fail.

Perhaps my page could be saved in it's own sub-folder but even then ...

Let me know what happens please. Of course, if you've any doubt at all you should not use my page. Andy.

[HansV]

I have split off this sequence of posts from Add-on to exclude domains from right-click? since it's no longer about Andy's search page, but about a Lounge problem.

[Hey Jude]

Let me know what happens please. Of course, if you've any doubt at all you should not use my page. Andy.

In my case it had to do with changing History settings in my FF Options so I am auto logging in as I used to...just a coinkydink Your search works wonderfully and I've had lots of fun experimenting with it....

[ChrisGreaves]

I've not been able to replicate the problem so far.

(later) 2+ days later the problem has disappeared.
I've not needed to log in to anything (not just the Lounge) after half a dozen reboots.

[PJ_in_FL]

Has an answer been found for this?

I'm using IE 8.0 on XP+SP3, and I have to login if I've not clicked within the site for about 30 minutes (maybe less). I also check the "Log me in" box, but it doesn't change anything, so when I return I have to fill in ID and PW fields again.

[HansV]

Hi PJ,

That's strange - even if you don't tick the check box "Log me on automatically each visit" (or "Remember me" in the Lounge Portal), you should remain logged in for 1 hour:

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Try running IE8 without add-ons for a while to see if that makes a difference.
Click Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Internet Explorer (no add-ons) to start IE8 that way.

[DaveA]

Has an answer been found for this?

I'm using IE 8.0 on XP+SP3, and I have to login if I've not clicked within the site for about 30 minutes (maybe less). I also check the "Log me in" box, but it doesn't change anything, so when I return I have to fill in ID and PW fields again.

What web address are you using to get to "The Lounge"?

[PJ_in_FL]

@HansV and DaveA - Thank you for taking the time to read and reply to my question!

Just restarted the XP PC and entered the lounge via URL http://www.eileenslounge.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; using the "No Add-ons" mode (Thanks for the tip! I never saw that link before). Portal page came up but had to log in manually at 12:01 EST, according to the banner at the top of the lounge. I'll click a topic in 30 minutes to see if I'm still logged in...

Edit @ 12:45: Still logged in at 12:41. Logged out and closed tab. Opened new tab and clicked link to the lounge portal. Still required manual login. Testing continues... I'll wait over the 3600 seconds for auto-logout then reload the page.

QUESTION: Should I be logged in automatically in that situation, or do I need to go to the login page at http://www.eileenslounge.com/ucp.php?mode=login&sid=.." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. for automatic login to work?

I also went to the lounge on a Vista laptop (IE8 and Vista Home Premium + SP1) where I'm currently writing this reply, also around 12:01 EST. I expected to and did log in manually as I've not set up this PC before, so I didn't expect any cookies to be set. I did check the "Log me in" box, so we'll see if this PC behaves differently.

Edit @ 12:55: Vista PC - same results after logging off. Returned to login screen, logged in and made sure the "Log me in" button selected. Logged out again and returned to login screen but still had to manually log in. It's not really a "hot" issue as I usually just let KeePass log me in when this happens, so I'll just expect to continue to do so.


Thanks again for listening,

[viking33]

PJ,
When you leave the Lounge, do you manually log out?
You should be able to just leave and go elsewhere on without logging off.
This is a habit established on the other Lounges, where logging off was not necessary.
The admins should be able to answer if this is still the preferred method with this phpBB version.

[HansV]

> "Logged out and closed tab. Opened new tab and clicked link to the lounge portal. Still required manual login."

That's the way it is designed to work. If you log out, you will ALWAYS have to log in the next time you visit Eileen's Lounge. This is because the Lounge cookie in your browser's cache keeps track of whether you're logged in or not. Logging out changes this status.

When you're done visiting here, simply surf to another website or close the tab, but do NOT log out.

[jscher2000]

There are sites where you must log out: for example, any where action could be taken by a bad actor that would cost you money. The reason is that although your browser is quite good at protecting one site from access through another, it can never be perfect, so logging out of your banking and ecommerce sessions is always worth the extra click. The Lounge, not so much.

[PJ_in_FL]

OK, just to get everything straight, I don't normally log off any site other than financial sites of course. So what I was doing during my "testing" yesterday was not a typical scenario. I understand how it must have been confusing, and muddied the issue. Sorry about that.

What WAS happening (yes "was" - I swear it wasn't doing this before, oh and also the dog ate my homework, really!) was I would use a link to navigate to the Lounge, then use the Login page to get signed in.

Every time.

Honest!

Some of those sessions may have exceeded the 1 hour time-out, but most were just: open a tab, click on link, enter login info....

Sometime yesterday I navigated back to Eileen's and suddenly my mug shot is staring at me in the upper left corner. After recovering from the initial fright (this is the first - and maybe last - time I put my face in an avatar) it occured to me I didn't have to log in to see that horrible sight, it happened automagically!

So I just tried again today, both IE 8 and FF 3.6, and there I am staring back at myself when I click the link (in IE) or type "eileenslounge" and press ctrl-enter in FF. FF needed an initial login (are cookies also browser specific?), but after that, logs in every time I navigate back to the site.

I swear it was NOT doing that when I first posted! And no, I wasn't logging out each time and, no, I'm not senile - yet! (If you ask about "crazy" I'll have to take the Fifth)

To make a long story short - uh, never mind!

Sheepishly yours,