Sporadic auto log out
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Sporadic auto log out
For some reason I'm being automatically logged out after browsing around the board for a little while. I can't manually get this to repeat so I can't find a common thread (no pun intended) to track down the cause. Additionally, this board's cookie isn't being retained. No, I do not have anything that automatically blocks or deletes cookies, nor is there a program (cleaner) that deletes this board's cookies. Yes, I have checked the box for auto login. It would seem there is a connection between these two anomalies since both involve the board's cookie, eh?
Jeff
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
This is most odd, and I am pretty sure that you have been singled out for special treatment as we have not had any other similar reports.
- What web browser are you using?
- What browser add-ons are installed?
- Are you connecting from behind a corporate router of some kind, or just a standard home network?
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
You could try using the 'Delete all board cookies' link at the bottom of the Board Index page - exact location will/may depend on the skin you are using.
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
a. Browser: IE 8 (Vista)StuartR wrote:This is most odd, and I am pretty sure that you have been singled out for special treatment as we have not had any other similar reports.
- What web browser are you using?
- What browser add-ons are installed?
- Are you connecting from behind a corporate router of some kind, or just a standard home network?
b. Browser add-ons: none to speak of out of the ordinary, e.g., Adobe pdf and shockwave flash, find as you type, Internet Download Manager and ieSpell.
c. Router: Just a home network via a Linksys router (hardwired)
I am registered on 30+ boards and none exhibit this behavior. So, perhaps this board has been singled out for special recognition?
Jeff
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
This happened to me once last night, but after signing in a second time it never happened again...so far, anyway. A stale cookie maybe?
Mike
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
Good idea! Funny I didn't consider this already since on my own board I give this bit of advice to members having problems of this kind often.Leif wrote:You could try using the 'Delete all board cookies' link at the bottom of the Board Index page - exact location will/may depend on the skin you are using.
I was able to reproduce the issue consistently by clicking on the "User Control Panel" link. Doing so logged me out. However, after deleting the board cookies, this hasn't happened... yet. So, perhaps things will function properly now.
Thanks for the advice.
Jeff
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
Me too. I'm going to try the advice on "Cookies" given above. (Firefox 3.5.1)Pilgrim wrote: Additionally, this board's cookie isn't being retained.
(After a reboot) So far so good!
(A day later)Nope. I'm being logged out for some reason ... At least I'm only logged out, and not yet locked out!
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
Firefox 3.5.1; no addins; standard home office WinXP network/StuartR wrote:[*]What web browser are you using?
[*]What browser add-ons are installed?
[*]Are you connecting from behind a corporate router of some kind, or just a standard home network?[/list]
I documented a few tests on a web page http://www.chrisgreaves.com/Eileen/Loggedout.htm
I'm sure I've missed something out, some nifty diagnostic step that would isolate the problem.
I documented it this way so I can go back and rerun tests and update the documentation.
I'm now open for suggestions.
I may live to regret this, but my reformat of drive C: with reinstallation of Win XP is long overdue ...
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
Yesterday I was logged out over "8" times trying to reply to a post and/or include an attachment in a reply. I tried deleting the board cookies 4 times, tried 3 different skins, rebooted and tried again and finally on the 9th attempt, I was able to post the reply without being logged out.ChrisGreaves wrote:Me too. I'm going to try the advice on "Cookies" given above. (Firefox 3.5.1)Pilgrim wrote: Additionally, this board's cookie isn't being retained.
(After a reboot) So far so good!
(A day later)Nope. I'm being logged out for some reason ... At least I'm only logged out, and not yet locked out!
I've run no diagnostics but I am quite sure the problem isn't with my system.
Jeff
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
Is it possible that your IP address is changing? This would cause the server to reject your current login.Pilgrim wrote:...Yesterday I was logged out over "8" times trying to reply to a post and/or include an attachment in a reply...
StuartR
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
Stuart, I know your response was to Pilgrim, but I'm interested too.StuartR wrote:Pilgrim wrote:
My first access to Eileen's Lounge this morning and waddyaknow I'm logged out. Same appearance as last night. When i click "Login" the system (everything beyond the tips of my fingers) has remembered my user/pwd, but not the checkbox, which remains OFF.
- Can you please tell me how I would determine if my ISP address is changing?
- Also, is there some easy way for me to peek in my cookies to see just what is set/unset at some stage?
P.S. I'd even give up the Cooking Forum to get this fixed ..
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
Not likely since I am behind a router and on satellite and thus my IP is virtually static. Again, I frequent 30+ boards, one of which is my own which I have administered for 14+ years (began with the original Perl wwwthreads) and this is the only board where this problem occurs. It may be related to "referrers" being checked; enabled/disabled in the preferences of this board's software.StuartR wrote:Is it possible that your IP address is changing? This would cause the server to reject your current login.Pilgrim wrote:...Yesterday I was logged out over "8" times trying to reply to a post and/or include an attachment in a reply...
Whatever the cause, it is definitely aggravating.
Jeff
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
I have changed some of the settings. Could you let us know whether the problem persists? Thanks in advance.
Best wishes,
Hans
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
(Just call me little Mr. Echo)HansV wrote:I have changed some of the settings.
I had persistent logouts all day yesterday, but after this morning's reboot I am logged back in as I always hope to be.
V. Strange.
For the record, here are the (Firefox) cookies currently registered under Eileen's lounge.
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
Sorry to add a, perhaps, slightly different issue to this thread, but since some have already added their... and I don't know if it is related or not.
What I mentioned in another post, here, happened again. This is not a huge problem for me; I'm so used to log on to different sites, don't bother with different software to auto log on or saving cookies for much longer than the session etc. That is, no need for me to purge old cookies, for most sites, they are removed when I close the browser. However, it would be nice if it worked until I logged out and/or closed the browser (for me the same since they are per session).
Anyhow, earlier today, I was logged in, tabs open, inactive in the Lounge for some 4 hours, when I came back I decided to test this; one press on F5 and I'm logged out (I could of course tried to open some Control panel or other non public link, but a refresh on the index page was enough to see this).
I've checked: no new IP address during that time; nothing else changed (as far as I know). As I said I don't, at the moment, check "Log me on automatically...", but that shouldn't matter since I had not left the site, should it?
Fx 3.6; JavaScript allowed for the Lounge, and when I checked after being logged out I had the four cookies Chris mentioned.
What I mentioned in another post, here, happened again. This is not a huge problem for me; I'm so used to log on to different sites, don't bother with different software to auto log on or saving cookies for much longer than the session etc. That is, no need for me to purge old cookies, for most sites, they are removed when I close the browser. However, it would be nice if it worked until I logged out and/or closed the browser (for me the same since they are per session).
Anyhow, earlier today, I was logged in, tabs open, inactive in the Lounge for some 4 hours, when I came back I decided to test this; one press on F5 and I'm logged out (I could of course tried to open some Control panel or other non public link, but a refresh on the index page was enough to see this).
I've checked: no new IP address during that time; nothing else changed (as far as I know). As I said I don't, at the moment, check "Log me on automatically...", but that shouldn't matter since I had not left the site, should it?
Fx 3.6; JavaScript allowed for the Lounge, and when I checked after being logged out I had the four cookies Chris mentioned.
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
More grist to the mill, I reckon:Argus wrote:... I don't know if it is related or not...
I have NINE EileenLounge pages on my Firefox menu; my habit is top "open all in tabs".
I noticed this morning, after my regular start-of-day-reboot, that only some pages were logged out. (I am developing a nervous tic that sees me open-all-in-tabs, login on the leftmost page, then F5-refresh on the remaining 8).
Some of the pages were logged in, some were not, if we can go by the status of the login/out command up near the top RHS of each page.
VBA, Excel and WindowsXP (My own Green Dots) were all showing "logout", which I take to mean, were logged in.
Lounge Matters, Word, Hardware, Scuttelbut, Cooking and Mozilla Firefox were all showing "login", which I take to mean, were logged out.
- I have 4 cookies; are the cookies keeping track of individual pages?
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
I'm afraid I have no idea what causes this - perhaps the cookies can't keep track of so many open tabs...
Best wishes,
Hans
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
I don't know if there's a max or not, but I have five links in my "Eileen's" toolbar bookmark. If I open all in tabs, they all show me as logged in.
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Before seeing this response I deleted about one hundred cookie-sets from within Firefox. I am now down to 20.HansV wrote:- perhaps the cookies can't keep track of so many open tabs...
Let's see how this goes.
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Re: Sporadic auto log out
If you'd like to try a little experiment, I have a suggestion for ya. In my earlier post, I showed a graphic of my FIVE bookmarks for this forum and said that I didn't have the hit-miss problem you're experiencing.ChrisGreaves wrote:Before seeing this response I deleted about one hundred cookie-sets from within Firefox. I am now down to 20.HansV wrote:- perhaps the cookies can't keep track of so many open tabs...
Let's see how this goes.
Well, I don't know if this is the answer or not, BUT in the interest of "neatness" yesterday, I rearranged those bookmarks to open the tabs, left to right, in the order that I normally prefer to see them. I put the one for the INDEX page a couple further down in the list and, BINGO, your problem was repeated this morning when I tried to open them all in tabs! Some were logged out and some not.
This afternoon, I put them back in the original order and I think a key is that the INDEX PAGE bookmark be first in the list. I don't pretend to know why, but it must have something to do with the order in which the cookies are dealt with. I tried about three restarts of Fx and all was well, so I dunno. It would be worth a test to add a bookmark to the INDEX page and put it at the top of the list to see if that helps.